ESEE videos discussion thread

Discussion in 'ESEE / RAT Videos' started by Strigidae, Feb 11, 2018.

  1. Strigidae

    Strigidae Moderator Staff Member

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    Im also picky about what bandaids i use.
     
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    Jeff Randall ESEE Knives / Randall's Adventure & Training Staff Member

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    Now this is something I completely understand. Boils down to "this is what I want" without having to find some made up reason that it works better than another one. In the end, though, that's basically what we all do when we buy gear. It's because we want it more than we need it but most of us (myself included) will always find an objective reason that justifies our reasoning. In all honesty I can think of more real reasons to buy a certain brand of toilet paper than I can a pot that you build water with in the woods.
     
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    I'm with ya there. A crappy band-aid makes me cranky. :D
     
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    Jeff Randall ESEE Knives / Randall's Adventure & Training Staff Member

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    Me too. But that's based on one working better than the other.
     
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    If you want that old guy to start cussing you tell him you have the Pathfinder version, he cussed me like a sailor for about 5 minutes when I asked if the small one would fit in it.

    I have the small Mors pot and use it the most of all my pots when it just me, when there are more people I use the stainless pathfinder version of the large Mors pot. If I'm going light I just use my Toaks Ti mug with lid, they all do the same thing I think it just come down to what you are doing and personal preference.
     
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    Jeff Randall ESEE Knives / Randall's Adventure & Training Staff Member

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    Well I can see that me and that old bastard wouldn't get along too well. If someone gets torqued over competition then it usually shows some insecurity issues on their own stuff.
     
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    Jeff Randall ESEE Knives / Randall's Adventure & Training Staff Member

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    I'd like to ask him why his is better than other folks and listen to the BS reasons.
     
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    See. Woodchuck.
     
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    Thats true.
     
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    YES!
     
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  11. shaneadams90

    shaneadams90 ESEE Knives Marketing Director Staff Member

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    to be honest I didn't get it either till I began to spend more quality time with Patrick in these classes and on these video/photo shoots. Funny how much you can study on techniques thru the viewfinder of a camera.

    I've always leaned more to the backpacker mindset when it comes to cooking/coffee set up where you just throw the heat to it and go from there...I NEVER really used a fire to cook with in the back country...or rarely.

    When I started trying to emulate some of the skills I was seeing Patrick and others do I began to see the benefits of a Ti or Stainless cup that has a bail and folding handles...I've had cups/pots with one and not the other and now, after some experience, I get why the Mors Pot checks all the boxes....

    Coffee is pretty important to me and I've been using a JetBoil French press and while it works great my pot (and food) always taste like coffee....recently I saw a new company pop up call Woodknot Gear Coffee Press that checked a LOT of boxes for me...I just got it and am looking forward to trying it out soon...I'll do a post and let you know my thoughts..

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    Jeff Randall ESEE Knives / Randall's Adventure & Training Staff Member

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    Man, those folks know how to take a photo. Outstanding lighting and composition.

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    shaneadams90 ESEE Knives Marketing Director Staff Member

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    It's off their IG account....some great photos there...

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    Jeff Randall ESEE Knives / Randall's Adventure & Training Staff Member

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    I'd buy it just because of the cool photos. Doesn't matter if it's any better than a Mors or not with photos like that.
     
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    And you don’t even drink coffee!

    What’s that old saying about people buying with their eyes?
     
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    I like the lid feature on this one along with the handle design.
     
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    He is a smart survivalist. He doesn’t want to deal with 2-5 days of rebound headaches due to caffeine withdrawal.
     
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    I just like the color. I'm sold.
     
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    First off, I enjoyed the heck out of that video.

    Secondly, it's interesting to see the preferences for particular pieces of gear. As far as cooking equipment I carry my Heavy Cover canteen and cup 99% of the times I'm in the woods. It doesn't fit on stoves very well, but I've had a lot of instant coffee and a lot of Ramen out of it. It's a lot emotional attached. A buddy swears by Zebra pots with the locking lid.

    As for function, I'm curious about the new coffee press you have there @shaneadams90 I need to get something bigger for group trips. My other "main" cooking equipment is the pot for the Primus version of a Jet Boil.
     
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    I saw a video the other day, where the speaker mentioned off hand the strange competitorship that takes place in (for simplicity) Bushcraft. He meant it in the sense that one person might go "Oh I can carve a try stick in five minutes" and the next person might go "I can carve a try stick in three minutes so I'm unequivocally better at Bushcraft than you," whether or not the two minute gap actually matters come dirt time.

    I think a side effect of that competitorship is it breeds an environment where everyone is trying to be the most efficient, at the forfeit of fun. You can see that roll over into gear choices. Outdoorsmen (and the Outdoorswomen and Outdoorschildren too) choose gear like they're in competition sports. "This knife gives me faster times..." not "I enjoy using this knife." "This pot boils water thirty seconds earlier than my old pot." Do you have somewhere to be?

    And then when they break away from the hive mind and get something because they actually like it, and they're challenged, they have to justify it. "NO! This is better...No, not for me. Personal preferences don't exist. Just in general, it's better. Why would I carry something I like? Pfft...that's stupid."

    Obviously gear is all subjective. If you're a professional, then yeah, of course it's about efficiency so you can get back home to your silky pajamas ASAP. If you're going off into the backwoods, there's a baseline you need to meet because the intention is to make it back home. The extremes people (myself included) go to at times just boggle my mind though.
     
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