Discussion in 'ESEE® Knives and Gear' started by shaneadams90, Feb 15, 2018.
Nope, I am on the same page.
I don't like the heavy epoxy powder coating. It always scrapes off and seems to drag more while cutting some material types. The black oxide vs epoxy powder coating doesn't really apply to me though as I prefer stainless which doesn't need coatings to retard rust. I also don't have a need to reduce reflections of my gear in a tactical sense.
It does make sense on a 1095 knife and would be preferable to epoxy powder coating IMO. I think a nitride coating would be better than black oxide. Black oxide is usually Fe3O4 which is magnetite. As a mineral magnetite is typically not found in surface rocks under low temperature surface oxidizing conditions because it readily changes to hematite (red rust) or the hydrous mineraloid limonite (yellow rust) with a little activation energy. Magnetite is technically semi-stable because it requires energy to undergo the oxidation process. Interestingly you can convert hematite to magnetite by adding heat, but it will revert back to hematite as it cools unless it is quenched or cooled in an anoxic environment.
Nitride for the win. Seriously though black oxide works pretty good.
Wow. Whippin out the chemistry. Good post.
The logo on the knife was my favourite
Check this out...
It's BLACK so of course I like it
you know how hard it is for me to refrain from making jokes about your love of black stuff....your killing me man!
Is it removable? If notnit may upset the "forced patina" crowd. I like that the powder coat strips away with use.... Shows its a tool and not a decoration.
I appreciate it.
If the coating cant hurt the heat treat and reduce drag id add it to my barn. Especially in a four.
Behave yourself Bushy, besides you have to BLACK house Panthers so don't tell me you don't like BLACK
Is that nitride coating applied before or after the laser etched logo?
I think I would prefer the black nitride over the black oxide finish, not in looks, but in performance. Nitride is AWESOME. But I prefer both, or no coating, over powder coat.
And yet my heart still yearns for a hi viz esee. Someday... someday
I hear what you're saying, but all I can think is.....
There are multiple types of nitride coatings. I am pretty sure it does affect the heat treat and hasn't been widely adopted because of that. It may be possible to integrate a nitride coating into a temper cycle, but that is pure speculation on my part.
I must be the only one that likes the epoxy coating and the tumble finish.
The sand colored epoxy finish and to a lesser degree the tumble finish allow me to see to use the blade in much lower light conditions than the BO or dark coating.
The epoxy is very durable for me as I'm not much on batoning and it's easy to maintain and keeps the blade rust free.
Two schools of thought from my house:
I like 'em stripped, with patina, and smooth.
The wife thinks the coating is a godsend because I only bitch about the edge being rusted on hers as opposed to the whole danged blade.
Why not a choice of all 5 ?
- black oxide
- powder coated
Too many sku#'s to keep up with.
I personally don't have a problem with the original powder coat finish when it comes to ESEE's warranty, you can etch, strip, patina to your liking and it's still covered by the warranty.
Ya but the then the collectors will have to buy one of each........more moola for Esee
Can you do a black oxide in the venom green please? maybe call it green toxide ***
Really though I like BO better than a coating. I have a PR4 and I like it. I have a few knives with coated blades. It just falls off after awhile
*** The above is joke but I like colorful gear. It’s easier to find.