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  1. JohnGer

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    Hello!

    Do you like Smocks?
    Don‘t you like em?

    When and for what do you use them?

    How do you pack them?

    Which one do you prefer?

    Cheers,

    John
     
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    Spyderco is coming out with a very nice, budget friendly smock.

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    :D
     
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    Patiently waiting on my pre-order
     
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    Smock ? As in the type you wear ? If so...yes indeed.... !
     
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    Just using this Video as an example. I'm talking about these in all variations:

     
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    Yes, I have used a smock as my bush jacket since, well, since the late 80s I guess. I used a British RM "Arctic Smock" as my go to for the better part of 20 years (it is actually still perfectly workable I just updated). I now use an Aussie made Platatac SAS pattern in Multicam (it was a ADF overrun for the SAS/Commandos in Arsecrackestan) It is (like the RM Smock) 100% cotton so I also treat it in TX10. I have some pics of it but not accessible to me here just now.

    I must confess to haveing ummmmmm...."several" other smocks as well all the way back to 1960s Australian issue parachuting versions. I have one that I really like (but never gets used because I keep on using the Platatac one) that is made in Germany (in the Wüstentarn pattern). The maker is private but a really high quality piece of gear that is well thought out. Their name escapes me just now. When I was heading to Africa (because military camouflage patterns are a big no no in Mozambique) I got a plain tan Parachute smock made by SORD (Another great Aussie company) I really like it and it now lives in my truck permanently. Even here in the city it does not get to many second looks if i slip it on during "tactical urban maneuvering" (you know, grocery shopping, checking the mail, walking the dogs ;) ).
     
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    What do you use them for? Camo and insulation? Rain jacket?
     
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    So smock = some kind of (light?) jacket?
    Not being sarcastic, but I was thinking of some sort of apron type thing when I read the OP. When I worked retail decades ago the thing some employees wore were referred to as smocks.
     
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    The original/traditional Smock (the British and Germans used them during WW2) was generally a fairly light weight "shell" (to use the modern thinking/language) garment. The British versions (started with the Denison Smock = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denison_smock ) were made from gabradine cotton (it's a very tightly woven fabric) and as such were lightweight and windproof (add a cotton treatment as I do, and which the Brits traditionally did/do then they are well beyond just "shower proof" as well). From the 70s/80s the British "SAS Smock" kind of set the style/pace for these garments ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windproof_smock ). They are lighter than a traditional combat jacket so easier to carry. A good design will have well laid out large pockets (from a time before body armour and load carrying vest) that you can squirrel all manner of gear in, and a hood. When combined with a Howard Green, shirt and singlet you had a lovely set of layers that you can manage temperature with.

    From another era in my working career I also have an Arktis made "SAS Smock" in black, it remains one of my favourite things to throw on in cooler weather.
     
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    Do you have a regular setup or „kit-List“ with which Items and in which Order you pack your smocks?
     
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    This is the one I got to take to Africa...

    https://www.sordaustralia.com/sord-smock

    No generally I don't have a regular list of gear, depending on what I am doing where. I can pick my normal bush one up however and know that there will be a headover, beenie, nomex gloves and shemagh packed around it. I will add my Garmin Etrex to a sleeve or chest pocket depending on my mood ;) and the balance of my gear I add before setting out as dictated by my needs ie hunting, fishing or just roaming.
     
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    Never seen these before. Now i need one.
     
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    If you are interested in smocks, maybe check out the German Brand Leo Köhler. The quality is outstanding. I have 3 smocks, and the one by LK is the best I have followed by TacGear. Smocks are pretty popular here in Germany.

    http://www.leokoehler.com/

    http://www.tacgear.de/endex.php
     
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    I have a CDN Forces pattern 82 smock. You can fit a whole ton of gear into the pockets if you needed to.

    The idea behind the smocks is they ACTUALLY breath when your rucking etc. 80% water tight, fairly fast to dry when exerting yourself too
     
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    This is dead on.^^^^^^

    I have the First Spear Squadron Smock, Internet Picture.

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    And a Drop Zone Tactical recce Smock, Internet Picture.
    D.Z.Tactical is no longer in business.........

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    Drop Zone is in O.D. Green and my First Spear is in Coyote.
    I really like them both and they can hold ton of gear, I think they have 16-18 pockets.
    The D.Z. has a beefy main zipper that I really like and the F.S. has Buttons that go thru the whole flap,
    that I really like. Good for gloves.
    I really like mine for cooler weather and have used them both for the 4-5 years I've had them.
    I pulled some of the Velcro off the D.Z. so I can wear it around people and not be stared at.
    There is a place in Canada [ Vancouver tactical] that sells some pretty good stuff out of the U.K.
    I love mine and think for the right application they can't be beat.
     
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    I will go through the "smock collection" ;) to see what I have hanging there.... :D
     
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    Lofty Wiseman would approve......
     
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