Question re: black oxide finish vs. powdercoat

Discussion in 'ESEE® Knives and Gear' started by TheGreatGrackle, Nov 21, 2019.

  1. TheGreatGrackle

    TheGreatGrackle Member

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    Hey, folks.

    Earlier this year I was gifted an Esee 3 w/ the black powdercoat. I love it. I mainly use it when car camping.

    .....And yet I still have the "bug" and want something a bit smaller.

    As I consider the Izula II, I have searched the forum for the term "black oxide" and found the threads re: speculation as to chemical composition, food prep, etc. Yet I cannot find a thread specifically about the pros/cons of each finish.

    Some of you indicate that there is less friction with the oxide. What other benefit is there? I am full-on OCD, so I keep my powdercoated 3 oiled pretty regularly. My specific question would be whether one offers better rust protection than the other.

    Finally, (not on the same topic, but perhaps germane): my main uses would be car camping with the family and quite a bit of backpacking. I don't need a Candiru-sized blade for packing, as I have some small ones already.

    Thanks, guys.
     
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    I currently have a pr4, cleaver and izula 2 all with black oxide. I have had zero rust on any of them. They all get regular use. Keep them mostly clean and dry and you will have no problems. In addition to having less drag while cutting, I feel the black oxide shows less wear than the standard esee coating.
     
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    Thank you for the input! I'm obliged!

    My wife is asking me what I want for Christmas, and I'm prepping for an eye roll when I say, "Another knife."

    Cheers.
     
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    Yeah, I get the same eye roll from mine.
     
  5. Jeff Randall

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    We use a cold process black oxide so it is a copper selenium process. The coating only gives a very slight resistance to corrosion. It does give you more cutting efficiency than the textured powder coat. I personally like it a lot better than powder coat since the less drag I get on a blade when cutting, the better. As far as food prep, I will use it for food prep but just know it is not certified food safe so we do not suggest using it for any food prep.
     
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    So are the O.D.green blades not as slick as the black blades?
     
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    Both work the same for buttering toast imo.
     
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    Thats all I use my Esee's knives for!! My rc3 that has it is still on Special Asignment at a Chihuahua Ranch !:rolleyes:
    So I asked Jeff.
     
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    I was completely opposed to the idea of black oxide coatings on my ESEE's. I had used the powder coated blades for so long that my initial thought of the BO models was "that's probably a stupid idea." I ate those words after giving one a try. I have 4 now with the oxide finish. They hold up fine with just a little more maintenance (lightly oiling) and perform better IMO. Being able to scrape tinder and strike a ferro rod with the spine of my knife is worth it alone to me. This little CR 2.5 is what changed my mind. It goes with me daily in my work bag in case I'm gloved up and don't want to fumble with a pocket knife. It also makes a great neck knife on the trail for meal prep, feather sticks, and fire starting. IMG_20191207_100106732-01.jpeg
     

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