If Jerry's using something like them, they gotta be good to go. He's so awesome. I've had the opportunity to speak with him several times, both in person and over the phone and he's always been helpful and very gracious. Good choice on the caliber for deer and hog (and human and everything else!). I'm putting together a thread on my pretty much do-all, go-to rifle, the Ruger Scout. I love that thing.