Bushman5 and Se7eN's combat shovel thread

Discussion in 'DIY (Do It Yourself)' started by Se7eN, Jan 4, 2018.

  1. Rick R

    Rick R Member

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    Maybe we should spec some ridges to enhance pleasure? :(

    That was a pretty phallic description of what every girl wants. I’ll proof read more better next time. :D
     
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    Small portable shovel for
    Digging ground, digging dirt for campfire suppression, digging latrines, splitting fatwood stumps, digging holes for caches, throwing for fun, using like the Russians use it for fighting, chopping thru ice, field expedient rope anchor, smashing windows in cars in emergencies.....etc
     
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    I was gifted one of the CS shovel's from @Theo (Thanks again brother)
    I've thought about getting one of the short CS composite bats and turning it down for a longer composite handle.
     
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    No. Simpler, less expensive, better. Something so portable and useful that people will want to toss it on their ATV, SLED, 4X4, PACK, ETC.
     
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    Think American Kami style scales.......
     
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    double post
     
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    I somewhat agree But respectfully ask if there were knives around when youse started making these wonderful things? I must say they are fantastic in there simplicity and function ....youse didn' t reinvent the wheel but simplified it to make more sense then all the other reinvented ones and i feel you have sold a few to say the least...would love to know the total of knives sold?
     
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    careful turning the CS polypro......it likes to shatter......:confused:
     
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    I thought they were made out of Grivory?
     
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    polypropylene - "grivory" is lynn thompsons fancy way of saying plastic. :rolleyes:

    buy the CS police baton ...its about the right size, no turning needed.

    edit: or the CS walkabout stick.......has a nice handle on the end.
     
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    OH so he can charge an arm n' leg for it:eek:
     
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    First Draft.

    I know this would be expensive to build. With that being said, we are kicking around some ideas that would appeal to everyone, from a weight and cost perspective.

    This is the first draft that B5 and I came up with. Whats the harm in seeing where this goes?


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    You guys should probably start with a sticker a la @Expat ;)
     
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    We could always put stickers on cut down shovels you buy at home depot LOL
     
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    How about a .25" thick @Expat sticker stuck on a mop handle:p
    Call it the Expatcorvator :confused:
     
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    Only if the sticker was made out of rowen 1095 and had the shape of a junglas.
     
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    I don't have time to do up a sketch, but I'm a huge shovel nerd, and have put a lot of thought into compact shovels over the years. My vote would be for a closed-back design with either a proper socket (there's so many reasons why you don't want "full tang") or an all-steel tubular T handle, and a miniaturized rice shovel style blade with the characteristic clipped tip and triad of holes in the blade to prevent mud and heavy clay from clinging to the blade. Forward-turned steps. Moderate lift. None of the compromising to try to make it a crummy chopping tool--make it a serious digger and root cutter.
     
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    I'm a fan of one piece designs, like DJ Urbanovsky at American Kami......I love his bolt on handle textured slabs, 1/4" thick spring steel handles. Thats what we're leaning towards in our design. I want to take @Se7eN 's layout design, lay it out on a piece of steel stock and cut it out, shape and smooth it, drill it, then heat treat it and quench it , slap some slabs on it and go torture test it.

    we're not concerned about weight at this point....both @Se7eN and I want brutally tough , springy, PRYABLE, chopping shovels for ripping into fatwood stumps , chopping thru ice in lakes, and splitting/prying duties. Besides we know no one will pay what is gonna cost to make these......no one will spend more than $40 for a shovel, these prototypes are going to be niche tools and will be pricy
     
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    I'll take 2
     
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    The issue isn't just weight in the raw sense--it's that what you want in a tough shovel is rigidity, and a slab construction is not a good way to achieve that. Rigidity is increased cubically with increased thickness, so hollow forms like welded tube construction will give many times better rigidity than a solid bar of equal weight. Just some late-night rambling on the subject. :)
     
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