Oh, for sure, I know you're using it to get in hunting. I have no issues with that at all. (Would probably try it myself sometime if I got the opportunity. Always wanted an excuse to get really good with .223.) But for some -- like a camping family with a naive pet toy poodle (read coyote snack) -- they might go elsewhere. And good point about dogs. So the response to sirens seems to be more a canid thing than a coyote thing. I'm still curious about why. What drove the evolution of that behavior?
We have a lot of coyotes here. We kill every one we see. I have friends with livestock so we help them out. We don't waste our time with poodle shooter cartridges either. Smallest we use is .243. I prefer my .30-06 with nosler 125 grain ballistic tips.
I've ... experienced a few poodle like dogs in my day (some were poodles, some pekinese, but all were yappie, obnoxious dogs that I would have loved to either muzzle, fine the owner, or take out (the dog) with a poodle shooter cartridge from a distance.
I also prefer larger cartridges. My caliber of choice is 6.5 Grendel shooting 95 gr. or 123 gr. ballistic tips. Coyotes are tough critters and I don't want any getting away wounded.
M Exactly. Add wind and long range and the smaller cartridges just don't haul the mail as well. Another factor is taking a marginal shot. Topping off a magaizine with .223 when it's below zero is also awful. I'm not hunting for fur so I don't care about pelt damage. More power wins. @Stone
Next year by this time, I'll be in a country that doesn't host coyotes (fortunately) at this time. So, I'm not investing further in firearms that I cannot own there. Not even the .223, which I was looking forward to. But, adventure calls. Given the Scottish highland roads that I've seen in videos, I think roadrunner is more likely. I can do that with slingshot. And instead of siren, I go, "Meep meep!"
Coyotes here can be baited, and hunted at night. Like deer hunting here, most shots are 60 yards or less. And that is being generous. You could hunt both deer and coyote with a 22lr. You can actually legally hunt deer here with a .22 Magnum. Rightfully so. You have to make an effort to set yourself up to hunt long range in a large portion of Maine. north in the tato fields it is a different story.
Here in Nebraska the majority of my shots on coyotes are under 75 yards day or night. However shots anywhere from 350 to 600 yards are sometimes required here in the pastures and sandhills if you're capable of taking them.
Nothing makes me happier then killing one with #4 or 00 buckshot. That only happens when we hunt in pies. If I'm solo I carry my win model 70 .30-06
I just cant do it. Saw a video where one yelped like a dog (yes i understand the lineage) after being shot and i wont hunt them unless they are a threat. Maybe ill change my mind someday.
You look at them, and other predators, differently when they have a direct affect on your friends bottom line. Or when they kill a family farm dog.
A friend lost a horse to a mountain lion. I'd kill one in a heartbeat. We have a season for them but I've been unsuccessful.
I live in North Dakota. People have farms with critters. We have a **** load of wildlife. Do the math.