https://chrisryanphd.com/tangentially-speaking/2015/9/13/143-justin-alexander-nomadic-world-traveler Starts at bout 30 min.
https://chrisryanphd.com/tangential...is-author-ethnobotanist-explorer-photographer Interview begins at 35:35. http://www.daviswade.com/#mi=1&pt=0&pi=2&p=-1&a=-1&at=0
The entire Rogan /Rollins podcast is great. My daughter and I re-listened to it this past weekend while out driving.